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Chautauqua conference transcript
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Thomas Michanek
2006-04-03 18:17:33 UTC
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In November 2005, I went to the FrameMaker 2005 Chautauqua
conference in Raleigh, NC, USA, and met some of the folks
on "framers". Also, Adobe's FM Product Manager Karl Matthews
held a Keynote Presentation. He presented what was going on
in the world of publishing, authoring and FrameMaker, what
the future holds, and answered some questions. Among other
things, he commented on the user surveys performed by Adobe,
the platform support regarding Mac and Linux, and possible
coming feature additions.

Maybe you already know this, but I've made a transcript of
his one-hour presentation, together with the slide texts he
used. You can read or download the transcript as a PDF file
from the Bright Path Solutions website:
http://www.travelthepath.com/chauttranscript.html

In addition, a version of the actual PowerPoint presentation
with notes and comments from conference participants is also
available from the same web page.

Apart from these comments, I also talked to Karl Matthews
about the future of FM versus InDesign. He made it very clear
that these will continue to be two separate products, and there
are no plans to "merge" the products in any foreseeable future.

The Chautauqua conference will be held this year too. And a
result of the interaction between Adobe and the European FM
users at last year's conference is that an FM conference will
be held in England in September, thanks to Mekon UK, Pectora
and Bright Path Solutions. For more info on the FM conferences
during 2006, see http://www.travelthepath.com/conf2005.html

Regards,
___________________________________________
Thomas Michanek, FrameMaker/UNIX/MIF expert
Technical Communicator, Linkoping, Sweden
mailto:***@comhem.se
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andreas mrs d.t ch
2006-04-04 07:40:06 UTC
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Post by Thomas Michanek
Maybe you already know this, but I've made a transcript of
his one-hour presentation, together with the slide texts he
used. You can read or download the transcript as a PDF file
http://www.travelthepath.com/chauttranscript.html
Very nice work! Thank's a lot. But I have to say, I'm suprised, you used
Word to write your transcript... :-)

Andreas
Thomas Michanek
2006-04-04 18:55:35 UTC
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Post by andreas mrs d.t ch
Very nice work! Thank's a lot. But I have to say, I'm suprised, you used
Word to write your transcript... :-)
I know... I simply don't have FM on my home computer...

Please forgive me!
:-)

/Thomas
f***@arcor.de
2006-04-05 10:55:10 UTC
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Post by Thomas Michanek
Post by andreas mrs d.t ch
Very nice work! Thank's a lot. But I have to say, I'm suprised, you used
Word to write your transcript... :-)
I know... I simply don't have FM on my home computer...
Please forgive me!
:-)
/Thomas
There is always OpenOffice ... ;-)
Klaus
andreas mrs d.t ch
2006-04-28 07:29:56 UTC
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Post by f***@arcor.de
Post by Thomas Michanek
Post by andreas mrs d.t ch
Very nice work! Thank's a lot. But I have to say, I'm suprised, you used
Word to write your transcript... :-)
I know... I simply don't have FM on my home computer...
Please forgive me!
:-)
/Thomas
There is always OpenOffice ... ;-)
Well. OOo sucks, they tried to copy M$ Word. And as Word sucks, they
copied the sucking part too...
f***@arcor.de
2006-04-28 16:12:10 UTC
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Post by andreas mrs d.t ch
Post by f***@arcor.de
Post by Thomas Michanek
Post by andreas mrs d.t ch
Very nice work! Thank's a lot. But I have to say, I'm suprised, you used
Word to write your transcript... :-)
I know... I simply don't have FM on my home computer...
Please forgive me!
:-)
/Thomas
There is always OpenOffice ... ;-)
Well. OOo sucks, they tried to copy M$ Word. And as Word sucks, they
copied the sucking part too...
That is not entirely true. Even though there are some areas where they
copied Word mis-behavior 1:1 (lists!). There are other areas which are
quite good: page styles, list styles etc. OO is better than Word. I
wish they would leave the word paradigm behind, though.
andreas mrs d.t ch
2006-04-29 09:21:28 UTC
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Post by f***@arcor.de
Post by andreas mrs d.t ch
Well. OOo sucks, they tried to copy M$ Word. And as Word sucks, they
copied the sucking part too...
That is not entirely true. Even though there are some areas where they
copied Word mis-behavior 1:1 (lists!). There are other areas which are
quite good: page styles, list styles etc. OO is better than Word. I
wish they would leave the word paradigm behind, though.
You're absolutely right! I did not check all the features of OOo. Just
paragraph styles and (paragraph) numbering (which is done in the same
dialog within Frame), and they both don't fit my needs. Not at all...
and these two features are important enough to pay some money for a
FrameMaker update and not use the free OOo. I guess, if somebody is
happy with MS word, there is no point NOT to switch to OOo.

I went for Frame and Wine on my Linux.

This works perfect with two problems: I don't know (yet) how to create
PDF from my documents and the new update does not work (yet). But for
both I have to say, I didn't try to hard.

Andreas
Dale DePriest
2006-04-30 01:06:56 UTC
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Post by andreas mrs d.t ch
I went for Frame and Wine on my Linux.
This works perfect with two problems: I don't know (yet) how to create
PDF from my documents and the new update does not work (yet). But for
both I have to say, I didn't try to hard.
Andreas
To make a PDF you just do a save as with the type set to pdf.

Dale
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andreas mrs d.t ch
2006-04-30 10:42:11 UTC
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Post by Dale DePriest
Post by andreas mrs d.t ch
I went for Frame and Wine on my Linux.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by Dale DePriest
Post by andreas mrs d.t ch
This works perfect with two problems: I don't know (yet) how to create
PDF from my documents and the new update does not work (yet). But for
both I have to say, I didn't try to hard.
To make a PDF you just do a save as with the type set to pdf.
Well, at least with my last version 5.5.6, Frame started some Adobe
Distiller and it had to be running in the background. Unless Adobe did
not include all the PDF creation software in Frame 7, I guess this
doesn't work that easy under Linux with Wine.

I will try as soon as I have some time. It's not that important, as I
have some copy of VMware running on the same machine.

Thanks anyway, Andreas
Dale DePriest
2006-05-05 15:56:23 UTC
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Post by Dale DePriest
Post by andreas mrs d.t ch
I went for Frame and Wine on my Linux.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by Dale DePriest
Post by andreas mrs d.t ch
This works perfect with two problems: I don't know (yet) how to create
PDF from my documents and the new update does not work (yet). But for
both I have to say, I didn't try to hard.
To make a PDF you just do a save as with the type set to pdf.
Well, at least with my last version 5.5.6, Frame started some Adobe
Distiller and it had to be running in the background. Unless Adobe did
not include all the PDF creation software in Frame 7, I guess this
doesn't work that easy under Linux with Wine.
I will try as soon as I have some time. It's not that important, as I
have some copy of VMware running on the same machine.
Thanks anyway, Andreas
Everything is include in 7.1. In the earlier versions the save as didn't
always work very well but you could print to a pdf file in the print
dialog. That's what I did in verison 6.0. Yes you do need distiller but
that is included.

Dale
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